2010 BMW 5er (F10): spy pics & info - Page 8

Osnabrueck · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-19-2006, 11:26 PM

You get my point then.

Mind you, I'm not just taking into consideration BMW, but all German Car brands. I got frustrated looking at how obscenely high CPO E90s were going for, and started to think seriously about CPO alternatives.

From my point of view, the Z4 has a very good excitment/newness/haggle potential trade-off, provided you like the design. In my case, I just love the 2005 model when it's shod with those split-spoke alloys. Of all the post-bangle BMW's, it's probably been the poorest seller and therefore the best bargin on the lot.

I thought about an A4 - but that car will be replaced pretty soon. I also started thinking about an A3, but that's my wife's dreamcar and she'd kill me if I bought one for myself.

Now, there's also the remote possibility that I'd be interested in a E60 if the facelift ends up being nothing to write home about. I'd have to watch and see what the effect is pre FL resale. On the other hand, it's more car than I really need, so I dunno...

I've even entertained the thoughts of getting into an '03 7er. Still, seems like risiduals on the "good ones" remain much to high for me to stomach.

warot · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-19-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Osnabrueck

You get my point then.

Mind you, I'm not just taking into consideration BMW, but all German Car brands. I got frustrated looking at how obscenely high CPO E90s were going for, and started to think seriously about CPO alternatives.

From my point of view, the Z4 has a very good excitment/newness/haggle potential trade-off, provided you like the design. In my case, I just love the 2005 model when it's shod with those split-spoke alloys. Of all the post-bangle BMW's, it's probably been the poorest seller and therefore the best bargin on the lot.

I thought about an A4 - but that car will be replaced pretty soon. I also started thinking about an A3, but that's my wife's dreamcar and she'd kill me if I bought one for myself.

Now, there's also the remote possibility that I'd be interested in a E60 if the facelift ends up being nothing to write home about. I'd have to watch and see what the effect is pre FL resale. On the other hand, it's more car than I really need, so I dunno...

I've even entertained the thoughts of getting into an '03 7er. Still, seems like risiduals on the "good ones" remain much to high for me to stomach.

Wow, all those cars are in the same price range? I'd definitely go for the Z4. Extremely desirable car imo and it's a whole bunch of fun. Plus you live in CA, might actually use the car with the top down.

Deutsch · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-19-2006, 11:39 PM

I think the current generation large (5er, 7er, 6er) BMW's will have the most problems in the forseeable future due to the complexity of the electronics. The next generation cars are suppose to decentralize the mass of functions being controlled through one source (I drive). The next geneartion Audi;s, I feel, wil be very good, especially as drviers cars. Might be worth the wait but it sounds as if you are in a bit of a time crunch perhaps???

Deutsch · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-24-2006, 09:30 PM

Story on the new 5er translated:

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AUTO picture preview BMW 5er BMW finds back to old form After the Design Eskapaden of the last years the turn suggests itself. The new 5er for 2009 becomes a BMW, as we dear-learned it.

y George Kacher well, who sagt's: BMW can build nevertheless pretty cars. The next 5er-Reihe might eliminate the last doubts. Our exclusive computer retouchings show that one again animated the feeling for forms, details and proportions, which was lost in the meantime, in Munich. Instead of combining sagging joints with ausufernden surfaces, peace is in-turned. The designers practice more in restraint, set on knackige forms with concise light edges (sheet metal creases, at which the light breaks). The new 5er-Limousine, internally provided with the project number F10, will therefore strongly polarize less than the current model. At the dimensions first much did not change at all:

Consistently those developed native of Munich further also the light Design. From the front one recognizes the new 5er by the circular day headlight, from the rear points to three red horizontal shining bars the way. Instead of the expensive neon technology in the style of the Z8 bright LEDs are to be used with the 5er with exception of the main headlights. The rear lights are in the future divided. This measure widens the loading hatch and lets the cars look more bulliger. Inside BMW turns back to the driver-oriented cockpit. That means: more strongly bent center console, instrumenting with optional Head UP display, improved iDrive, new ergonomics for air conditioning system and mechanism Joystick. The larger iDrive CONTROLLER gets an improved operation, it reacted clearly faster, and it accompanies the driver by a more clearly arranged menu structure.

When desired there is the next 5er with a four-zone climatic mechanism, which is to work over a walzenförmiges air distribution system named Airwave nearly no-draught. Alternatively to the classical hand switch new mechanism, sport (SSG) and double clutch transmission (DKG) are offered. The operation is made by a uniform tapping SHIFT selector lever with two switching lanes. In order to insert the park position, in the future a simple push of a button is sufficient. Same applies to the electromechanical parking brake, which separates when starting automatically.

The engine program might look for the start in such a way: • 520i, 2,5-Liter, 218 HP • 525i, 3,0-Liter, 238 HP • 530i/xi, 3,0-Liter-DI, 272 HP • 535i/xi, 3,0-Liter-Biturbo-DI, 306 HP • 540i, 4,8-Liter-V8, 367 HP • 550i/xi, 4,4-Liter-V8-Biturbo-DI, 408 HP • 520d, 2,0-Liter, 175 HP • 525d, 2,5-Liter, 204 HP • 530d/xd, 3,0-Liter, 245 HP • 535d/xd, 3,0-Liter, 300 HP. The new M5 with more capacity and higher performance V10 is briefly introduced only 2010 after the 5er-Touring (F11). In addition in planning the following innovations are in the drive range: • Urea injection for the Diesels (with 25-Liter-Zusatztank) for clean exhaust gas • Bemsenergie recuperation/intelligent generator regulation (lowers consumption up to ten per cent) • asynchronous operation mechanism and shifting up announcement • for Biosprit/synthetic fuel suitable engines.

pics again:

The Artist · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-24-2006, 10:31 PM

well we know wher he got the original pics from for this PS..
but it is still extremely UGLY

Beemer B773ER · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-24-2006, 10:34 PM

It's all good and well to speculate about the car when you see test mules running around the streets looking like a mix between Darth Vader and Joan Rivers, ...but the next generation 5er's a quite some time away...so I doubt these guys have much of a clue.
Ofcourse we can look at the past to see how BMW will approach the new F10 5er, and yes we already know the design will be more an evolution rather than a revolution (hopefully not as subtle as the new X5)...but I'm sure any Tom, Dick or Harry could conjour up a photoshop of the new 5er faster than they could make Fried Rice.

But, I guess they made those PS's to create a discussion about the car, so in terms of the pictures... well, the front is interesting. I wouldn't say it's toned down from the current E60, but more of a squarish approach to give the 5er's face some size-presence. I don't mind the mouth treatment either.
Now let's focus on the F10's derriere... O' La La ... that's bad-ass (pardon the pun).
Very aggressive, very big, very RED lights.... but yes, the mind jumps straight to the new IS and GS from Lexus. Is that a bad thing? Dunno, coz it still actually looks a lot better than how Lexus executed their rear lights.
Very smooth curves, yet very crisp edges. Very elegant surfaces, yet very aggressive shapes.

...Just such a pity them M5 wheels don't come as an option on the 5er range.
(Although, I saw a few pictures of a white E60 5er with M-sports package and it had the M5 wheels. My goodness! Looks every bit as good as the M5!)

SDNR · **Re: F** 5er Autobild chop -** 05-25-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Deutsch

tailights look like they came off of a Lexus Gs.

I agree Deutsch, there definately is a resemblance there ...I can't imagine BMW doing anything like this.

EnI · 02:46 PM

This CGI is just Huckfeldt's wild guess.

He is right when it comes to later phases of development - not the early ones. In the early ones he is way off.

Remember his CGIs of E90 3er?

Or E92:

All way off. Just like his impressions of next generation 5er, 7er, Z4, Z8, X5, and even X6. When it comes to initial impressions Huckfeldt is only guessing.
Mind that sometimes he makes an impression even before the final design is chosen by BMW Board of Management - so it is obvious in such a case his CGI is not correct.

The Artist · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-25-2006, 06:01 AM

to be honest that 3er coupe looks better than the real deal..
allthough i really like the real one

PS
Only the front though..the rear is better on the real one

Osnabrueck · **Re: Next BMW 5er (Autobild chop). -** 05-25-2006, 02:40 PM

Thanks for pointing that out EniLab. Lots of people are under the mistaken impression that Huck is the undisputed soothsayer of the automotive world when, in fact, he's just as clueless as the next guy. What sets him apart from the rest is that he does such a great job cobbling together compelling and realistic images.

I followed Huck religiously while I was in Germany, and not once did he nail an impression unless we were very close to release. Talking about the next 5er? It's all up in the air folks.