I've read countless posts on this subject and it seems now that the problem has been eradicated w/ production cars produced from a specific date in time? Can someone confirm this (Just_me)?

Reading the many threads and posts on the subject, owners are obviously unhappy w/ the expereince they're having w/ their cars and often times you'll read "problems in a car of this caliber is unacceptable" and other statements of the like. The funny thing that people don't seem to get is, these are [Bfirst ] year cars packed to the brim w/ advanced technological feats., so its the risk you take, and beyond that, it's a man made machine, anything mad made doesn't last nor hold up all that well, especially when its a new car. I'm suprised that none of the owners I've read from have mentioned this?

yes its true. We have discussed here on GCZ. ALxamg who consider the M6 has got the message from me. There have been a bulletin from BMW and owners are aware of the problem.

M5 E39 also had this problem from the first year it was introduced.

But this issue has been resolved? No?

Whats your take on the situation having heard so much?

People that having problems , the car has now been fixed. Time will tell iif its been resolved or not.

Would you agree w/ my assesment that this is just the price you pay for having purchased a first year for a brand new model?

of course. All performance cars have their problems the first year. There is always a risk of buying the first year. Some dont mind buying one but we also have members over at M5board.com that wont purchase their M5 until most "child-problems" have been solved.

A good freind of mine(whom I've mentioned before) that writes for several major automotive publications has told me that problems like this are adding up and may lead to some sort of crisis at BMW, much like what has recently happend at Mercedes Benz, and it's only a matter of time before such a thing occurs? While I more than respect his opinion, I don't think BMW has had enough bad press to warrant such suspicon. On top of that I have yet to hear of a negative E90 3er ownership expereince, and the car has been out for what...almost six months? This is just a harsh reality for German brands being the technological tour de force of the automotive industry.

Not to blab on, but he also stated that his independent BMW mechanic(he owns several BMW's, two M cars) has said that he is considering not servicing newer BMW's because their techonolgy is so advanced that their equipment cannot keep up and that these cars may not be on the roads for longer than 15 yrs because they will cost so much to run that owners will just find it not worth it to keep them. This isn't my opinion, just sharing a second opinion form a respected friend of mine. I do think its a possiblity that all car makers could very well one day make independent shops obsolete as the majority of maitenence on new cars will be done electronically via computer. Who knows, still a bit early to tell on what lies down the road 15 yrs from now. Interesting thoughts none the less.

I don't know about not being able to run 15 years down the road. When the cars get older, all the bugs are fixed. So by the end of the life cyle, the car should be more or less as good as it gets. You won't need to update anything really. On the other hand, if your hardware breaks, then it will be costly.

Plus, refusing to get an M5 now means that you'll be that far down the waiting list... which is a very long list

Its not like BMW are the only one with problems or having electronical problems. I bet even Lexus have their issues as well. If BMW are having problems with electronics in 15 years so will Audi and Mercedes. BMW isnt more advanced than MB.

I know old generation 7-serie are having a lot of electronics problems, S-class is having electroncical problems so Im certain that latest generation 7-serie and latest generation S-class will also have problems in lets say 15 years.

I agree w/ both of you guys. It depends on the complexity of the systems, and I drive is as bad as it gets if you dont' know computers in a BMW. I haven't toyed w/ I drive long enough to know how effective/ineffective it is. I just remember I couldn't change stations on the radio w/ I drive a few years ago in a 7 series, that is the extent of my experience w/ the system because for w/e reason it wouldn't allow me to do anything else, either that or I just didn't know what the hell I was doing. I fully expect to see M5's driving around(though not on a frequent basis) in another 14+ years.