Next-gen BMW M3 a year away? - Page 3

warot · 09-29-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

first of all.. okay coupe first.. in your world maybe thats logicall.. in mine i say bring on the car for gods sake.. sedan coupe anything..

and about the power issue..AMG´s are always more powerfull..
but the M3 is on top for a while with everything.. i mean that with this late release it wont be on top for long as far as power goes..cause the C63 will come out more or less at the same time.. and if we follow tradition the C63 will be more powerfull..and probably faster in a straight line..
hence my first statement..it will be underpowerd vs the competition from START..

PS
now we cant say wich car will be faster for sure.. that we have to wait for..but with most certainty the C63 will have more power than the M3.. and thats fine.. but from the start.. like if they debut at the same time..

But that's how it has always been though more or less. Since when were M's known for their sheer power?

The Artist · 09-29-2006, 10:18 AM

but still they had time to be on top of the power chart for a while..
for example M5 was on top for a good while until the E63 came now
but this wont happen with the M3 if its released so late..

PS
With his im not saying that the M3 will be a bad car..it will probably still smoke everthing in the class.. on track atleast

Yannis · 09-29-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

you dont know this.
If we check previous numbers for M3 and M5 you can see that the horses between M3 and M5 arent that many. M5 E60 has 507hp and Im sure M3 will get like 430-440hp.

When BMW's 5 lt V10 makes 507 hp there is no way a 4 lt engine can make over 410-420. Sorry JM but the rest are daydreaming.

The Artist · 09-29-2006, 10:43 AM

^yep if its NA..it will be hard to take out like 450hp..

Michael · 09-29-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

^yep if its NA..it will be hard to take out like 450hp..

Does anyone know if M would ever turbo charge an M? I know their philosophy is high reving, but since the 335i is out who knows...

warot · 09-29-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

When BMW's 5 lt V10 makes 507 hp there is no way a 4 lt engine can make over 410-420. Sorry JM but the rest are daydreaming.

That V10 engine is capable of making more HP than that btw... It was just limited to 507.

warot · 09-29-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWFREAK

Does anyone know if M would ever turbo charge an M? I know their philosophy is high reving, but since the 335i is out who knows...

I'm hoping they don't. I know that's what a lot of people said about BMW's in general, but the 335i is a huge success I agree. But /M cars are just so special. They don't have the active steering, run flat tires ect... Unless they need to go way past the 600hp mark, I'm hoping they wont.

Just_me · 09-29-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

When BMW's 5 lt V10 makes 507 hp there is no way a 4 lt engine can make over 410-420. Sorry JM but the rest are daydreaming.

there been talk everything to 4,0 to 4.4 liters. Im not dreaming at all. If you think BMw will stand still and just watch the competition leave the M3 behind, then you are dead wrong. Then there also will be a CSL version and those rumours are saying 450hp.

Just_me · 09-29-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Artist

but still they had time to be on top of the power chart for a while..
for example M5 was on top for a good while until the E63 came now
but this wont happen with the M3 if its released so late..

PS
With his im not saying that the M3 will be a bad car..it will probably still smoke everthing in the class.. on track atleast

funny thing about E63 is that carmags meassured the cars, the M5 turn out to be faster 200km/h and equal up to 160km/h with the E63. Like I said before, M5 cars are more than just a powerful engine. AMg often has more horsepowers than M but M usually has less weight than AMG. What M cars lose in engine power that they make up with lower weight and better gearing. No, I dont agree that M cars are underpowered, they would be underpowered if the competition beat the M in acceleration with several seconds, now we talking small differences, so underpowered that word isnt correct. also the sales will be sky-high despite what numbers of horsepowers.

alsahher · 09-29-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

When BMW's 5 lt V10 makes 507 hp there is no way a 4 lt engine can make over 410-420. Sorry JM but the rest are daydreaming.

It has been shown on dyno that the M5 engine power is underrated. Some members on m5board who dyno-ed their car showed that the engine makes 520+/- hp. So I don’t think the M3 4.? L engine cant do more than 410-420 hp..

We just can’t do anything just wait and see what M power have for its benchmark coupe. The M3

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