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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:47 PM

BMW U.S. spec M3
Unladen weight
3726 lb

Which includes all fluids/fuel and standard equipment.
What number are you looking at?
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:47 PM

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Other U.S. mags have not tested yet. This mag shows that the car is heavier than what's been tested over there.
And what is the big surprise? Usually, US-spec car weighs more than RoW. Example: MB C350 in Euro market weighs 1541kg (no driver, no luggage, but with full tank). US curb weight for C350 says 1643kg.
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:50 PM

But you still used this data point in your avgs, didn't you? In regards to E92 and C63 comparison
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:50 PM

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Did other mags test a US-spec E90? That this car with nearly $10K in options and which they describe as "loaded" actually undercuts BMW's US weight claim for a base stripper by some 20-odd kg says something.
Well, this is no doubt a very well equiped M3 E90, they will not come much heavier than this.
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:51 PM

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BMW U.S. spec M3
Unladen weight
3726 lb

Which includes all fluids and standard equipment.
What number are you looking at?
OK, 3726lb = 1690kg, right? 19" wheels, nav, nearly $10K in options don't count as standard equipment.
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:53 PM

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But you still used this data point in your avgs, didn't you? In regards to E92 and C63 comparison
No, I did not. This is a newer test. Point is, this is no stripper. Period.
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:55 PM

No the point is you used a C&D test weight in your E92 to C63 comparison also. To find out the E90 weight.
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:55 PM

uggh, I sense another painful thread about weights. One can can split hairs about options and credibility of the magazines endlessly but the fact is the M3 (be it sedan or coupe) is much lighter than the C63 and there are numerous tests to prove that.
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 06:55 PM

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No, I did not. This is a newer test. Point is, this is no stripper. Period.
He or she will not give up until it weigh the same as the C63 (about 1,800 kgs).
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Re: C&D: M3 Sedan testdrive - 02-22-2008, 07:02 PM

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No the point is you used a C&D test weight in your E92 to C63 comparison also. To find out the E90 weight.
Because C&D tested a Euro-spec E92. But nevermind that. We already agreed the Sport Auto supertest E92 was no stripper at all. 19" rims, EDC, nav, full leather, standard LSD, the works. We can add the weight of sedan (1608+25kg), moonroof (+17kg), and DCT (+20kg), and come up with a figure far lower than our reference C63 (Auto Motor und Sport; no LSD, no EDC, 18" rims). About 133kg lower.
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