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Just_me · 07-31-2007, 09:08 AM

Let's see who have the best guess

My predictions:

440hp/420nm
70 kg less than a standard M3
R-tires and DCT standard

PanterroR · 07-31-2007, 09:15 AM

I agree with your predictions. But maybe even bigger weight difference...

Centurion · 07-31-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Let's see who have the best guess

My predictions:

440hp/420nm
70 kg less than a standard M3
R-tires and DCT standard

Hmm, I can't see how BMW will squeeze out another 20hp out of that engine without increasing the displacement.

Just_me · 07-31-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Luwalira

Hmm, I can't see how BMW will squeeze out another 20hp out of that engine without increasing the displacement.

What did they do with M3 and M3 CSL E46?

what is your preditction?

PanterroR · 07-31-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Luwalira

Hmm, I can't see how BMW will squeeze out another 20hp out of that engine without increasing the displacement.

The old one E46 didn't have increased displacement, yet it had 17hp more...

Centurion · 07-31-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TycoonGTR

The old one E46 didn't have increased displacement, yet it had 17hp more...

I guess that's possible now when I have done some research. Apparently the E92 M3 engine isn't any more stressed than the E46 M3 engine was, only 3hp more per liter. So I guess it is possible to squeeze out more power with some exceptional engineering.

Other than that I have high expectations and hopefully BMW will be able to strip down the weight at least 50-100kg.

PanterroR · 07-31-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Luwalira

I guess that's possible now when I have done some research. Apparently the E92 M3 engine isn't any more stressed than the E46 M3 engine was, only 3hp more per liter. So I guess it is possible to squeeze out more power with some exceptional engineering.

Other than that I have high expectations and hopefully BMW will be able to strip down the weight at least 50-100kg.

Exactly! Imo, weight reducing would help more than those 20 hp or so... 100kilos less? Bring it on!

dr Dunkel · 07-31-2007, 01:12 PM

434 Hp, 420 Nm.

M-DCT - for sure.

R-tires will be neccessary - just look at how different other cars that are available with both R-tires and standard tires perform.

The weight loss will be no more than 50-60 kg.

Question is if theese stats will do in competing with the E46 CSL?

Centurion · 07-31-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dr Dunkel

The weight loss will be no more than 50-60 kg.

Question is if theese stats will do in competing with the E46 CSL?

Yeah, that weight loss seem to be reasonable. The car already has a CF roof, so there isn't a whole lot to of unnecessary weight to loose. Unpainted CF bonnet maybe?

Just_me · 07-31-2007, 02:15 PM

Do you guys think the redline will be raised to let say 8600rpm or stay the same as the standard M3 (8400rpm)?

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