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Exclamation Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 03:46 PM

WHAT THIS SHIIT ? 420 hp ONLY !! HMM MM OK
M3 vs WHAT ???!!! 4 LAST yeay bmw tell us M3 for ferrari 360 and por now M3 VS what ?! ok some guys say this car will be good in M3 CSL ! ohh this shit man this car should be 440 HP minmam if u want right CAR !
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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 04:17 PM

After digesting this information for a little longer, my initial +ve impression is offset by the following:

Even though the torque curve is relatively flat after 3500rpm, the peak torque of 400Nm only translates into 295 lb-ft of torque. Like the V10 M5, it will likely be lacking in low end torque (especially below 3500rpm) and will need to depend on high rpm to really accelerate. Nothing wrong with that, and completely in line with BMW M philosophy. If the overall weight of the car is low, this car will still fly when driven properly (rev it to the heavens... ).

As a comparison, even the older 5.4L V8 of the C55/SLK55/CLK55 has 400Nm available starting at just 2000rpm, with a peak torque of 510Nm (376lb-ft) at 4000rpm. And we already know the newer 6.2L V8 from AMG has high torque AND high engine speed limit. There really is no replacement for displacement (or forced induction like the 335i) when it comes to torque at low rpm.
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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 04:31 PM

I must admit that I am a bit disappointed that they didn't make it a 4.2-4.5 liter but very impressive engine nonetheless. What does the "Engine weight to BMW standard" mean? Propably not dry weight? What's the weight of the RS4 engine?

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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 05:13 PM

When i drove the E60 M5 the problem with the car was the torque curve and its lack of low end grunt. Sure it was fun on high way cruises when you can find the perfect gear to rev it in....but still. I hope that 295 lb/ft is good enough...it seems awfully low-even if it is a flat torque curve..

im going to be honest- im dissapointed. Not with horsepower numbers...but with torque numbers..
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Re: Official: BMW M3 E92 Concept - 03-22-2007, 05:16 PM

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POTENTIAL Leaked engine specs:

OK guys, I was hesitant to post this because I could not verify it myself. Seems a bit fishy. However, I have seen the same data posted here, m3post.com and elsewhere. However no sign of it at the Road and Track website. It is also hard to believe that this was pulled from an off the shelf magazine and someone does not already have it scanned and posted here. Anyway the post - ONLY REGISTERED AND ACTIVATED USERS CAN SEE ALL LINKS - CLICK HERE TO REGISTER claims that R&T claims the info is straight from BMW. OP makes some very nice analysis vs. RS4, 335i, E46 M3 and E60 M5 power plants as well.

420 bhp @ 8300 rpm
295 ft*lb (400 Nm) @ 3900 rpm
compression ratio: 12:1
redline: 8400 rpm
These specs are correct. Go to the Automobile magazine website for a detailed description of the engine and how it operates. Several pages of technical info. Great read!!
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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 05:17 PM

Looks like the 4.2 V8 RS4 engine from audi is the superior engine to the new M3 one on paper atleast. I expected more TBH.
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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 05:30 PM

^ no it doesnt. Heres a direct comparison between the engines.

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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 05:34 PM

wow, a lot of bitchin' and moaning about this engine when we don't even know what this baby does inside the car.
Must be all those RS4 fans, smelling they must be fast before first numbers come in.

You really think M would underpower the M3? You really think they wouldn't make the M3, their Iconic car, the best in it's class? You don't know already that the theory behind M is lightweight materials, handling and balance, not blunt Bhp or Torque? Good Lord, let's wait untill we see some figures before breaking this car up into little pieces.
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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 05:36 PM

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^ no it doesnt. Heres a direct comparison between the engines.

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Yes but the RS4's got more torque and it kicks in earlier. Some people wont like the BMW's no torque at low revs nature, and I presume those will be the same people that dont like S2000's.
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Re: BMW V8 M3 engine: official pics & info [Part II] - 03-22-2007, 05:37 PM

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Yep I won't say that the AUDI engine is better than the M3's engine...I would say is that it's on part with it.
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