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PanterroR · 01-30-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie

And one other thing.....it's sad to see that there is nothing in the immediate future from MB to take on the 335i or IS350 in its price range.

They simply have no answer to Munich Magic...

j/k... You're right, PC. But i don't think that any of them will sit and wait... Competition forces you to answer and/or improve... But of course, a guy like you knows that...

Imhotep Evil · 01-30-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie

Very impressive numbers for the 335i. Road & Track is my favourite North American magazine for performance numbers because they are consistent in reporting their results (they always do a 700ft slalom run which is a much better indicator of actual handling than a skidpad number).

Here are numbers for comparable cars from the same magazine.

IS350/G35/335i/S4/M3/C55

0-60mph (s): 4.9/5.4/5.0/5.4/5.0/5.0
0-100mph (s): 12.7/13.5/12.3/13.6/12.0/11.9
1/4mile (s@mph): 13.5@103.1/13.9@101.8/13.5@104.5/13.9@101.2/13.5@105.8/13.5@106.6
skidpad (g): 0.84/0.88/0.90/0.86/0.87/0.86
700ft slalom (mph): 66.7/65.5/68.7/65.8/68.3/67.6

It takes the previous generation M3/C55 to match/come close to the performance of the current 335i, and it's only at higher speeds where the M3/C55 can pull away. It kills the S4 in everyway. And the IS350 is pretty damn good too. Numbers don't lie as much as people's personal biases.

Of course, all of these acceleration numbers were done with high rpm launches for the manual transmission cars, whereas the automatic IS350 and C55 are just press and go. Keep that in mind for everyday street encounters.

Thank you PC Valkyrie. But as this is an american magazine I put little faith in it vs. the likes of Sport Auto and/or EVO.

The IS 350 tough good in acceleration will probably be murdered on any track by the 335i and even the 330i.

B_l3M_a2W · 01-30-2007, 01:11 PM

C&D pulled 4.8

PC Valkyrie · 01-30-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by B_l3M_a2W

C&D pulled 4.8

Just like C&D pulled 4.8 for the M3 and 4.7 for the C55......and so on and so on.

For comparisons the best is a head to head test done on the same day, same conditions. 2nd best is comparing results from different days but FROM THE SAME MAGAZINE because different magazines have different testing procedures.

warot · 01-30-2007, 03:05 PM

Where were these pictures taken? Really cool landscape. Cool car too

Matt · 01-30-2007, 04:34 PM

cool review... I drove that car and I can pretty much say that its damn good, in every respect. Ive been cruising the Lexoyota fanboy websites for comparisons on this car with the IS...some of the stuff they say is really funny.

Merc1 · 01-31-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Imhotep Evil

As Marcus said, american magazines use torque braking take off technique.
So shouldn't really be a real world thing but impresive non the less.

M

Merc1 · 01-31-2007, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie

Very impressive numbers for the 335i. Road & Track is my favourite North American magazine for performance numbers because they are consistent in reporting their results (they always do a 700ft slalom run which is a much better indicator of actual handling than a skidpad number).

Here are numbers for comparable cars from the same magazine.

IS350/G35/335i/S4/M3/C55

0-60mph (s): 4.9/5.4/5.0/5.4/5.0/5.0
0-100mph (s): 12.7/13.5/12.3/13.6/12.0/11.9
1/4mile (s@mph): 13.5@103.1/13.9@101.8/13.5@104.5/13.9@101.2/13.5@105.8/13.5@106.6
skidpad (g): 0.84/0.88/0.90/0.86/0.87/0.86
700ft slalom (mph): 66.7/65.5/68.7/65.8/68.3/67.6

It takes the previous generation M3/C55 to match/come close to the performance of the current 335i, and it's only at higher speeds where the M3/C55 can pull away. It kills the S4 in everyway. And the IS350 is pretty damn good too. Numbers don't lie as much as people's personal biases.

Of course, all of these acceleration numbers were done with high rpm launches for the manual transmission cars, whereas the automatic IS350 and C55 are just press and go. Keep that in mind for everyday street encounters.

I agree, Road and Track is a good magazine, but some of their comparo results are strange though. There is no way I'm buying than a Acura TL is a better sports sedan than the new G35. The Lexus IS350 well....I can see the luxury and power winning them over, but the TL heck no.

I just got my issue in the mail today BTW. It is packed with good stuff this month for a change. Road and Track had been getting a little boring lately.

M

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