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Re: In Perspective : BMW 1er Coupe - 03-26-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvEvo View Post
same thoughts as eni.

I am big 1er fan especially the agile handling and I like fast engines aswell but not a 135i turbo. Too nose heavy. Too much compromise for good chassis handling.

Just bring a 280hp or so 130i coupe and everyone is happy. After that bring a 330hp or more M1 and keep 3.5 turbo for the 3 series and above.

I have a 3 doors 130i on order and already own a 5 doors 130i but how much i like power i would never choose the 135i.

Keep the weight down make it the best handling car bmw has. Don t put nose heavy 6cil turbo engines in it.

If i could make the bmw 1er coupe petrol line up.

120i atmo 170hp
120i turbo 230hp
130i atmo 280hp
M1 atmo 330hp or more use the lightweight 3.0 engine get valvetronic off and put throttle bodies on and put revs to 8000 rpm or more.

If they could get 330hp and keep the weight around 1300kg. That would be just perfect. That s not light but it s the limit.

I rather have little less hp and less kg. M1 must be bmw best drivers car in the book no autobahn fast cruiser. What i like to see is a car that attacks corners and can get smiles on youre face while cornering. We don t need an other car that give tears in youre eyes because the front tires squeal soo loud because off understeer from the heavy nose.
We have enough cars which do that.
100% agree with you.

But I'm afraid BMW will be again influenced by US market where "the more is the better" and will offer 135i anyway (I hope not!).

There are still good chances not to do that since 1er coupe a) has no real competition; b) M3 with "only" 420HP is a good example & indication HP number is not all

I really hope the following model portfolio will be offered:

118i ... 143HP
118d ... 143HP
120i ... 170HP
120d ... 177HP
123d / 125d ... 204HP (2L I4 VTT diesel)
125i ... 218/231HP (2L I4 turbo)
130i ... 272/286HP (3L I6 NA)
M1 ... 350HP (3.2L I6 NA)

While 3L I6 diesel & 3L bi-turbo I6 petrol engines are IMO too heavy for 1er.
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