I agree with you Warot. The performance is a second priority. I mean sure it's cool to say that "my suv is faster than yours" or "my suv handles just like a car" but in all honesty. Anyone who thinks about driving thier SUV like a car doesn't belong on the road...Just like on a normal basis my mom never needs a capable off-roader. It is just something that my parents can use to haul supplies around for our business...and the van's not so powerful V6 isn't cutting it anymore