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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-08-2006, 09:00 AM

I think on the first picture, the first white posted, we can see how the front going to look like.
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-08-2006, 09:49 AM

Yeah, but it is very difficult to tell!!!
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-08-2006, 05:14 PM

The 1er is in the unfortunate position on which it gets lambasted for it's appearance , But to the critics the BMW is officially a success in several markets BMW sell more 1er than the Mercedes A-Klasse and B-Klasse combined .
Now that the hard part is out of the way - establishing your product and it's position! Now it's time to play...

First up will be the 1er Sporthatch - Which you have seen fresh from it's shooting in Cape Town SA and Tokyo, Japan. BMW aiming directly at the non-family perfromance hatch market . when I say non-family this demographic means to drivers with no families. The 3dr is BMW's attack on the 3dr C-segment - Aiming at the standard versions and the range topping performance models . To fire directly into the performance hatch segment BMW will equip the 1er with a Golf GT-i Challenging 120 Si utilising the engine found in the BMW 320Si , The 130i will sit at the top end of the range and will be offered as the current 5dr hatch in Sport and SE versions.
The big news will be the next incarnation of BMW's turbo engines a 125i .
BMW are wanting to keep the six-cylinder turbo engine away from entering below the 3er at first. A wait and see policy to see how the market reacts.

Next up will be the Cabrio using the proportions and style defined by the CS1 Concept car from 2002. Using a Canvas roof this model will begin to make a case for the larger and more upmarket 3er Cabrio , In 2008 BMW will introduce a 2dr Coupe with prototypes hitting the street in January. (which is currently expected to adopt a 2er badge with BMW wanting to recreate the passion the original 2002 brought to the masses - So much so that BMW want to recreate the marketing of the 2002 such as in location and feel . BMW would like to see this car have the "MINI" effect for the BMW brand. So revered especially in the US that to contradict popular myth of small cars that BMW will export the Coupe and Cabrio to the US Market. With BMW seeing these two cars as having more of an effect in the US than the current 1er hatch.
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-08-2006, 07:50 PM



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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-09-2006, 05:29 AM

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To fire directly into the performance hatch segment BMW will equip the 1er with a Golf GT-i Challenging 120 Si utilising the engine found in the BMW 320Si , The 130i will sit at the top end of the range and will be offered as the current 5dr hatch in Sport and SE versions.
I am confused.

Will the 1er have two 2liter engines? The 120si and the 120i? Or will it have only the 120si?

If so...will the 120i have an output of 170hp...and the 120si over 170hp to challenge the GTI?

What about the pricing? Will prices change (upwards?)?

Thank you guys...I am sorry...I am confused

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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-09-2006, 08:34 AM

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I am confused.

Will the 1er have two 2liter engines? The 120si and the 120i? Or will it have only the 120si?

If so...will the 120i have an output of 170hp...and the 120si over 170hp to challenge the GTI?

What about the pricing? Will prices change (upwards?)?

Thank you guys...I am sorry...I am confused

I guess 120si will be a limited edition: just like 320si is. Featuring downgraded WTTC engine.
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-09-2006, 09:38 AM

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I guess 120si will be a limited edition: just like 320si is. Featuring downgraded WTTC engine.
Oh OK...so there will be an 120i with 170hp and not a (alleged) 120si with 170hp. I mean that the 120i will in fact get 170hp...correct?
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-09-2006, 10:41 AM

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Oh OK...so there will be an 120i with 170hp and not a (alleged) 120si with 170hp. I mean that the 120i will in fact get 170hp...correct?
According to latest info 120i will come with 163PS, 120d with 177PS, 125i (I4 turbo) with 218PS, 130i with 272PS. And special edition 120si with (modified?) N45B20S engine.

I have confirmed info facelifted 520i is coming with 163PS, and 520d with 177PS ... So I guess same output for other models with same engines (eg. 320i/d, 120i/d, X3 2.0/d).

Also HPI N53 engine is coming in one displacement version only: 3.0L
In two variants: 272HP in x30i & 218HP in x25i. Later on some x25i N53 engines will be replaced with I4 turbo having same power output (eg. 125i).

Regarding 116i, 118i & 118d I can still only guessing:

116i ... 122HP / 129HP

118i ... 136HP / 143HP

118d ... 129HP / 136HP / 143HP
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-09-2006, 11:00 AM

can we expect the turboversion when the FL is presented?
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Re: SPY PHOTOS: Facelift 1er - 12-09-2006, 12:47 PM

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According to latest info 120i will come with 163PS, 120d with 177PS, 125i (I4 turbo) with 218PS, 130i with 272PS. And special edition 120si with (modified?) N45B20S engine.

I have confirmed info facelifted 520i is coming with 163PS, and 520d with 177PS ... So I guess same output for other models with same engines (eg. 320i/d, 120i/d, X3 2.0/d).

Also HPI N53 engine is coming in one displacement version only: 3.0L
In two variants: 272HP in x30i & 218HP in x25i. Later on some x25i N53 engines will be replaced with I4 turbo having same power output (eg. 125i).

Regarding 116i, 118i & 118d I can still only guessing:

116i ... 122HP / 129HP

118i ... 136HP / 143HP

118d ... 129HP / 136HP / 143HP



I think x20i will have the same power output as 320i E93, 170hp/210Nm.
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