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Old 12-28-2008, 10:46 PM   #1
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Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars out of the X5 and X6 over the 1series? In this pitiful current global market, I sure do. Ohhh well I guess. OPEC insiders say fuel prices will begin its climb at the end of the first quarter. Small-er cars will begin their reign.







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Old 12-28-2008, 11:44 PM   #2
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Re: Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

Having a pocket-rocket bullet like 135i in the list, do we really need a production M1?

On the other hand, having successful performance trucks like Ml-63, G-55 etc around, M version of X-series does make sense!
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Old 12-29-2008, 05:41 AM   #3
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Re: Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

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Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars out of the X5 and X6 over the 1series? In this pitiful current global market, I sure do. Ohhh well I guess. OPEC insiders say fuel prices will begin its climb at the end of the first quarter. Small-er cars will begin their reign.

You should be aware US market is still the biggest M market (same goes for AMG etc) ... And people there are not very interested in small cars. Not even M1. M3, M5, M6, X5 M , X6 M --- much more appreciated products in US market. Despite the crisis. Russians & Middle Easterns aslo like bigger BMW cars over the small ones.

So, it comes down to Germany - which likes small cars but it also likes small & particularly diesel engines. And also the UK: where RHD is an extra cost - and small cars insmall series (eg. M1) wouldn't be profitable at all.

M1 or Z2M over X5 M / X6 M. Perhaps sometimes when targeted customer base would start to buy & appreciate small premium cars as well.


Regarding "small cars will begin to reign": it much more affect economy brands than the premium ones. Yet premium brands will be affected as well. But ... M cars are not a high-volume production cars so there will always be customers for big M cars. Not so sure for small ones. Regarding the "reign" - it will be more a domination - but large cars will still exsist.
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Re: Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

We tried to make the 1er into an M car using the resources available to us but it did not provide the results we were expecting , unfortunately the outgoing six cylinder engine proved to be too heavy for the car and this was highly evident.

Although we are returning to the question of a 1er coupe based above the current 135i it will not be a M car but a more progressive upgrade and then with a turbo charged four cylinder currently testing in semi disguised 1er Coupe's. Will be the entry performance 1er Coupe.

Although the first disguised next-gen 1er sporthatches leave the prototype workshop before the Spring , The Coupe and Cabrio will not be replaced until eighteen months after the sporthatch launch.
So there is plenty of time.

But it falls back on the problem - You are impatient.
The 1er Coupe has just passed a year for sales in Europe whereas the North American/Canadian anniversary is in March.
It's far too early to discuss such progression when the car is still relatively new.
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Re: Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

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We tried to make the 1er into an M car using the resources available to us but it did not provide the results we were expecting , unfortunately the outgoing six cylinder engine proved to be too heavy for the car and this was highly evident.

Although we are returning to the question of a 1er coupe based above the current 135i it will not be a M car but a more progressive upgrade and then with a turbo charged four cylinder currently testing in semi disguised 1er Coupe's. Will be the entry performance 1er Coupe.

Although the first disguised next-gen 1er sporthatches leave the prototype workshop before the Spring , The Coupe and Cabrio will not be replaced until eighteen months after the sporthatch launch.
So there is plenty of time.

But it falls back on the problem - You are impatient.
The 1er Coupe has just passed a year for sales in Europe whereas the North American/Canadian anniversary is in March.
It's far too early to discuss such progression when the car is still relatively new.
I know!! I'm beyond impatient. The car hasnt even had a facelift yet. I think that would be the perfect time if they were to introduce anything ''more special'' in the U.S.
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Re: Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

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Although we are returning to the question of a 1er coupe based above the current 135i it will not be a M car but a more progressive upgrade and then with a turbo charged four cylinder currently testing in semi disguised 1er Coupe's. Will be the entry performance 1er Coupe.
I can't believe how long that turbo charged petrol 4 cylinder needs to be introduced. First M3 mules, now "semi disguised 1er Coupes." It's time to launch that engine, an 'winner' for many models, 1er, 3er, Z4. Time to get a move on...


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Re: Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

120CSi with Turbo engine around 250hp - where the hell did you go?
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Re: Do you think BMW regrets making //M cars

So many engines, so little time!!!
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120CSi with Turbo engine around 250hp - where the hell did you go?
I know it would have come my way instead of the MCS should it have been available
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