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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 07:29 AM

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I really think you should go for an engine swap... put the S54 in that cute little bay ;-)
I guess if BMW decided to put the updated 3 liter engine with 272 hp in the coupe... and cut out the rear seat.... E46 CSL type seats... Oh, well, one may dream....

But I wonder why they don't use the 272 hp inline six in the 1-series.
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 09:28 AM

^ In the 1-series coupé you mean?

What BMW needs is a high revving NA I6 alu/magnesium M powerhouse. There is a huge empty void now since the new M3 has a V8 and there is no M model for the 1er.
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 09:51 AM

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^ In the 1-series coupé you mean?

What BMW needs is a high revving NA I6 alu/magnesium M powerhouse. There is a huge empty void now since the new M3 has a V8 and there is no M model for the 1er.
I agree. They need a high revving I6. Give us a modern version of the E46 M3's motor. Have it crank out 350hp and rev to the high heavens!!
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 10:18 AM

Hi-rev NA engines are dead! That's a cruel fact.
In a few years petrol turbos will completely dominate the field. Diesels are already turbocharged.

Only some super-sporty brands will still offer high-rev engines - but even that's not sure: perhaps only in combination with KERS or hybrid system.

Exhaust gas emissions regulation is the reason.

Want a hi-rev I6? Buy E46 M3.
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 12:15 PM

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Only some super-sporty brands will still offer high-rev engines - but even that's not sure: perhaps only in combination with KERS or hybrid system.
From what I have heard, that is the way Ferrari is planning to go - just like BMW M.
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 12:18 PM

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^ In the 1-series coupé you mean?

What BMW needs is a high revving NA I6 alu/magnesium M powerhouse. There is a huge empty void now since the new M3 has a V8 and there is no M model for the 1er.
Yes, in the 1-series coupé. I guess that is the closest thing we are going to get to what we are looking for...

Today there is the not so inspiring 25i engine (which I like less than the 20i) and the 35i in the 1-series coupé. I think the 30i with 272 hp would have filled that gap rather well.
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 01:31 PM

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Only some super-sporty brands will still offer high-rev engines - but even that's not sure: perhaps only in combination with KERS or hybrid system.

Exhaust gas emissions regulation is the reason.

Want a hi-rev I6? Buy E46 M3.
I dont quite buy that. Wouldnt a modern version of the E46 M3 engine be lower in gas emissions that the E92 and V10 M's?
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 04:27 PM

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I dont quite buy that. Wouldnt a modern version of the E46 M3 engine be lower in gas emissions that the E92 and V10 M's?
Please keep in mind that this is marketing speaking. Marketing tells you what management tells them to.

The only real reason why we will not get real enthusiast spec engines is that it cost too much... of course they are able to build them but they do not care enough about the purist enthusiasts to build them. The gain (or should i say loss) in £, $ and € simply does not justify it...
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 04:59 PM

No more Turbo s for me.

High rev engines are so much more sheer driving fun.

I would buy a turbo but only diesel for driving daily.

For getting youre hair on fire an high atmo please. That s awesome.

give me 130i over an 135i turbo anyday. If turbo s is the only choice at bmw i only buy second hand.
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Re: New 1er spy pic - 08-23-2008, 05:13 PM

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No more Turbo s for me.

High rev engines are so much more sheer driving fun.

I would buy a turbo but only diesel for driving daily.

For getting youre hair on fire an high atmo please. That s awesome.

give me 130i over an 135i turbo anyday. If turbo s is the only choice at bmw i only buy second hand.
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