when is the car coming `?

LOL
Advanced Marketing

Oh, shut up!

Ha,Ha!

No seriously. The first engine will be for the 1er Coupe which is 2.0i with BMW Advanced Turbo. when the next generation of 1er is introduced we will see advanced Turbo in 1.6 and 1.8 formats also.

These engines will make the next gen. 1er the most cleaner, efficient, lighter dynamic sporty cars in the compact class. A base Hybrid model will also be available .

BMW see that although cars such as the Prius have potential. In all honest there has been nothing too progressive in design or drivability to such a groundbreaking concept. Every next generation BMW car now being conceived is too fully ferment an Efficient Dynamics programme as BMW aim to remain at the top of the game while the rest are now trying to play catch up.

Again, will we see a 120 CSi before the summer?

Depends which Summer do you have in mind ...

Summer 2008? Summer 2009? Summer 2010?

So, tell us more about this BMW Advanced Turbo...

Amazing, from the company that once eschewed turbocharging as being the preserve of untalented engineers (I know this is beating a dead horse and I am so over it - but still -bear with me) to a company that will pro-actively use turbocharging concepts that have long been used by other manufacturers as marketing ammunition.

Make absolutely no mistake, BMW do have an uncanny knack not just for innovative engineering solutions vis-a-vis the new twin turbo layout V8 but also for improving on existing, yet imperfect, technologies to the point that they can make a fuss about it in their marketing material.

What form will this "Advanced Turbo" take? Sequential turbo's (least likely)? Twin-scroll (highly likely)? Variable Geometry (Most likely)?

We know that twin-scroll turbo's are a very effective means to delivering turbocharged grunt in a more linear fashion for a single turbo solution. We also know that Porsche, in conjunction with Borg Warner have developed variable geometry turbo technology that is now suited to the higher temperature environments of petrol engines where previously it has been used for quite some time now in diesels. The application of sequential turbocharging in petrol engines does not yield the same benefits as it does in turbodiesels and is not, in my opinion, as viable in terms of a cost vs. benefit equation.

Of course, all of the above has been done to great success before, it's just that BMW will tell us that they've done it best! Whilst I count myself as an ardent BMW proponent, I will be the first to point out that they are consumate masters of making a big splurge about something that's been around for a while now...

Everyone who has driven a turbocharged car from the 80:s or 90:s will know why BMW was against the use of the technique back then.

I hear you Doc, but a particular engine springs to mind (and I've owned two cars); the 20 valve 1.8 litre turbo from VW/Audi.

Now if you ask me, it was that engine that put turbo'd petrol engines back on the map. Surely, had BMW given the world this engine then we'd never have heard the end of it. Oh, and that was well over twelve years ago by the way...

You need turbo s now because of emissions regulations in europe. In holland you have a rule that cars that exceed 238 co2 will cost 100 euro more if 1 co2 is above this.

That means that a new m3 is 6500 euro more expensive because it exceeds the 238 co2. So that car is not interesting to buy anymore. You will see more country s that will do this.

Also bmw needs to get the total production under a certain co2 amount.

Atmo engine s have higer co2 than turbo s. That s why we will see more and more turbo s. That s not a bad thing for car idiots because of tuning potential. And lighter in the nose with 4 cil turbo s.

I would do it like this make low hp turbo engine to get thru emissions rules but test the car with high hp. And get a good partner and supply them the good software so you can go after registration aftermarket and put the hp up and get orgininal quarantee on youre car. So you can counter the co2 rules.